---------------------- N E W S F O C U S ---------------------- NEWS/EVENTS OF NOTE AT AUBURN UNIVERSITY -- July 2-8, 1995 Auburn University - University Relations (334) 844-9999 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 6/30/95 Janet McCoy AU ASTRONAUT REMEMBERS NIGHTMARE: EXHILARATION OF APOLLO 13 AUBURN -- An Auburn University alumnus who was directly involved in what is expected to be one of this summer's blockbuster movies is anxiously awaiting the public's response to "Apollo 13." T.K. "Ken" Mattingly, a 1958 AU aeronautical engineering graduate, was originally suppose to fly on the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission in 1970, but he was grounded two days before launch because of exposure to the German measles. But Mattingly, who is portrayed in the movie by actor Gary Sinise, became the expert on the ground with the most knowledge of the crippled spaceship and its crew as NASA fought ago to bring three astronauts home to Earth. "The movie is not a documentary, it's an entertainment piece based on fact," Mattingly said in an interview from his home in Virginia. "But even reminding myself of that, I'm so close to what really happened that I couldn't watch the movie and tell whether anyone who wasn't a participant would like it or not. "It's kind of like watching home movies -- they might mean something to you and don't to anyone else. I've talked to several others who watched the movie and we have the same reaction -- we're just as anxious as anybody to see what the public reaction is going to be." Mattingly, who had a nearly 20-year astronaut career, attended a private screening in Houston with the movie's stars and others who worked on the Apollo 13 mission. The film is directed by Ron Howard and stars two-time Oscar winner Tom Hanks. Mattingly, who is retired from the Navy, says first met with Howard in 1992 to discuss the Apollo 13 story. "After the actors were selected, Gary Sinise, who plays me in the movie, called and we talked," he says. " I really don't remember a great deal of the conversation, but he asked some innocuous social questions like where was I and how did I feel about being pulled off the flight. "Ron Howard went out and really committed the whole crowd to being as authentic as they could be. The most telling thing about the success of their effort is that to people who work in this business, nothing was distracting. "By the time I had watched this movie for 30 minutes, I had completely forgotten about making comparisons between what I remembered and what I was watching and I just watched the movie." Mattingly says while he liked the movie, Hollywood took some poetic licensing in telling the story. "There were some distortions for the purposes of making the story fit and attractive, but the general stream of what happened is exactly correct," he says. "They encapsulated a lot of the round-the-clock stuff with Gary Sinise going off in a corner and working on one little problem in the simulator. In reality, we did it a lot of different ways and then checked the answers in the simulator." Mattingly downplayed his contributions in bringing Apollo 13 back, saying, "My role, while it may look dramatic in the movie, was really to be a translator and pass information along to a bunch of folks who were tired, cold and hungry and get through to them, talk in their language. Essentially, I was learning all the procedures so I could read them up with some authority and understand where they came from." Mattingly was a support crew member for Apollo missions 8 and 12 before being selected as command module pilot for Apollo 13, and he vividly remembers the dreams of his first space mission being shattered. "A couple weeks before the mission, (astronaut) Charlie Duke and family had spent the weekend with some family friends," he said. "One member of that third family had the measles, and they called Charlie, and he had the good sense to tell our flight surgeons that he had been exposed to it. "No one was worried about it because generally adults are immune to the measles and blood tests show if you have an immunity in your system. Everyone had it but me. I couldn't remember if I had the measles and NASA had to consider what would happen if I actually contracted the measles. And, the timing looked like it (a measles outbreak) would happen while we were in lunar orbit and so they debated this for a while, taking blood twice a day and examining me to see if I was sick, and finally they made the only decision they could. "You can't launch someone who is potentially going to get sick, especially operating a spacecraft by themselves when other people are depending on them, when you have an option to do something else," he said. "It was very painful to be told a couple of days before launch that you are not going to go, but there was so much invested in this mission that it really was the only choice. It really wasn't a decision, it was just a matter of telling me." Mattingly says has wondered "what if" he had been on the flight, "but I can guarantee you from a feelings point of view I would have rather been there no matter what happened. " "When you work on something that hard and that long it's something that becomes an emotional attachment. It takes a long time before you see the wisdom of 'Boy was I lucky not to be there'," he said. "It turns out there I was lucky because I got to do all the things they didn't get to do. But, it was a long time before I could see that." After his grounding, Mattingly returned to Johnson Space Center in Houston to watch the launch and was in Mission Control when Jim Lovell said the now-famous words, "Houston, we have a problem." "I had gone over to watch the live TV remote from space when Jim called down that something had happened, and we stayed about four or five days," said Mattingly Mattingly says the days were "like one continuum. I'm sure I must have gone home to sleep because I lived not far from the center, but I no recollection of doing that. I think we lived off the coffee machines and vending machines." Following Apollo 13, Mattingly flew in three missions: Apollo 16 in 1972, where he spent more than one hour outside the orbiter; the fourth and final orbital test flight of Columbia in 1982 with AU alumnus Henry "Hank" Hartsfield; and the first Department of Defense mission in 1985 on the shuttle Discovery. "I was fortunate in that I had a personal participation in Apollo 8, our first mission to the moon, Apollo 11, our first landing, and Apollo 13, which I've always called our finest moment. "Apollo 13 could not have happened without the others, but I believe that the most astounding part of the program was Apollo 13. "One of the things that's hard for people to understand is that when you see dramatic events in life, they are generally associated with individuals. One of the things that was really special about Apollo 13 was that it was not an individual contribution, it wasn't even a small group, it was a huge group of people. We had thousands of people working on this around the globe. "Every contractor, every civil servant, anybody that anything to do with the vehicle, its design, its testing had all gathered together or tied together by telephone and they worked together around the clock until they had the answer. The answers really didn't come in until just before the spacecraft entered the atmosphere." Mattingly says he hopes the movie builds enthusiasm for the space program, but it will not bring back the Apollo days. "I hope we can tell a story that people will get to see that there are some things the United States government has done that were really good, that people can be extraordinary," he added. "We did some audacious things that I'm not sure we could do today for a lot of different reasons. There was this opportunity where NASA did something absolutely unparalleled." # # # june95:AU-apollo13